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In July 2005, a 45 year old Boeing engineer named Kenneth Pinyan aka “Mr. Hands” died from internal injuries that he obtained by receiving anal sex from an Arabian Stallion known as “Big Dick.” Shortly thereafter, a video supposedly depicting the incident circulated widely around the Internet becoming one of the most famous shock videos available online. Pinyan’s death brought unwanted attention to a secretive but surprisingly large network of zoophiles in the U.S.
In this episode, we’ll cover the circumstances surrounding Pinyan’s peculiar death. We’ll also speak with a man who has an intimate relationship with his own horse and who had corresponded with “Mr. Hands” prior to his death. Because anonymity was a serious concern for this guest, he was willing to speak with us only via email. These conversations are read during the course of the episode by someone who had no idea before sitting down with us that he would be reading first-person advice on anal stretching and conveying the particulars of horse farts. Excerpts of that awkward experience and a discussion with the voice actor appear at the end of the episode.
In addition to all of that, we’ll watch the infamous “Mr. Hands” video ourselves, we’ll take a look at the prevalence of animal brothels in the US, and we’ll share how the whole thing is connected to a multi-million dollar drug trafficking ring.
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53:45 “…I believe they found homes for the dogs and the horses.”
They killed the dogs.
“Why did they euthanize the mice?”
“I mean, what else are you going to do with them?….I guess they could have just let them go.”
Letting them go was what Spink was doing with them. One of his dogs would catch mice. Spink would take the mice from the dog to prevent their being killed and then release them.
“I made that up; it’s not true.”
Now if only you could get the police to admit the same about the vaseline.
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I have to admit to being more than a little curious as to how you know this.
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Most of it was written about in Uniquely Dangerous, which was published after you made this episode.
Spink confirmed that the dogs were killed; he can be contacted by anyone who wishes to, although he is dying of cancer so if you’re interested in talking with him sooner would be better than later.
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Do you know Carreen Maloney? Are you Carreen Maloney? I sent her a Facebook message, but either it got caught in the “you don’t know this person” filter or I inadvertently came across as creepy. Probably the latter. In my defense though, it is pretty hard to, without a degree of awkwardness, start a conversation with a stranger the point of which is something like, “Hey, I don’t diddle animals but I hear that we both know a lot about it.” Anyway, I wanted to buy an autographed copy of the book. And maybe commiserate just a bit. She’s said that she spent years researching this. I only spent a couple of months combing through databases and interacting with people on a bestiality forum, and it was more affecting than I’d imagined. I’m still struggling with how I feel about some of it.
And I would very much like to talk to Spink if he might be amenable to being included in the kind of thing that we do.
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No I’m not Carreen Maloney nor have I spoken with her, though I gather that she is not shy. She can be emailed through her website.
Spink, who (whom? not sure…) I’m also not, is reachable through his websites and social media.
I found your effort in researching for this podcast commendable, as well as your efforts to being open minded with a very difficult subject. Very few are willing to make anything close to such efforts.
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